89 Greenhouse Gases

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Some one started a GreehouseGas thread on BH Discussion

For me real life is a million miles from Al Gore and his graph "see how temperature follows CO2"
..And the fact that no establishment scientist was able to stand up on the western media and say "say hey, that's misleading" shows to me that the modern era climate debate is dirty politics rather than proper science & logic.
.. trust in VALIDATED science : Yep
.. trust in The Establishment, media & scientists : Nope
(then reconfirmed by hockey stick graph, climategate, & every overhyped green/alarmist story which turns out to be hollow)

and temperatures have not only proves that the relationship between them is non-linear, or not tightly autoregressive.I'll bite
There is the laboratory world and there is the real world, and often they can be very different.
In the recent era real world
- the temperature is what it is
- the CO2 level is what it is
Whilst CO2 levels have gone up massively (about 310 to 400ppm since 1950) temperatures do not seem to have gone up inline.
So any relationship between CO2 and temperature has NOT been VALIDATED. (rather there is DIVERGEANCE)
.. So it looks as if in the recent era other factors are largely responsible for driving variations in temperature.

DONT JUST SPEND TIME COUNTERING SMALL JIBES
OUR ARGUMENT IS ALMOST AS BIG AS WARMISTS

Yes CO2 is a greenhouse gas
and yes it effects the climate

but you'll find most QUACKERY starts off with science and then overextrapolates from there

- the save the planet brigade have simply not delivered on their promises
Gores film promised us runaway temperature rise, yet whilst in the last 17 years
We've spent a $1billion/day on climate change measures *
everything you buy is much more expensive cos of them
yet CO2 has shot up with by 40% and the tenperature , the temperature didn't get the message and has stayed the same ..(all ..measures of climate are within the natural range of before industrialisation


* I d like to substantiate ..it comes from all research/propaganda costs plus difference in fuel costs worldwide ..quoted on Joannenova.com

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