56. Green's a Master Race ?
Who think they Should be in charge of the world, call other people Deniers


- Interesting shouting "denier" is used in the way lefties label all people they disagree with fascists ?

- This page is about undenier reverse of deniers ..the person calling you a denier is some eco-Nazi who thinks you are a second class person and they are the master race

Peter Gleick big Denier shouter, big censorer
- Peter G he routinely calls people a denier, but he conveniently uses any mention of a negative term by a commentor as an excuse to censor all they say ,
but uses the term "call out"=CENSOR
..he censors this commenter below
..citing Godwin's law (it's bad to mention Nazi's)

- "Don’t give me that sanctimonious “holier than thou” b.s. rhetoric concerning Godwin’s law. It was your side, the AGW fanatics, that came up with the phrase “climate change deniers”. The use of Holocaust terminology drew the ire of Roger Pielke, Jr. of the University of Colorado’s Center for Science and Technology Policy Research:

- “The phrase ‘climate change denier’ is meant to be evocative of the phrase ‘holocaust denier,’” Pielke, Jr. wrote on October 9, 2006. “Let’s be blunt. This allusion is an affront to those who suffered and died in the Holocaust. This allusion has no place in the discourse on climate change. I say this as someone fully convinced of a significant human role in the behavior of the climate system,” Pielke, Jr. explained.

- The AGW fanatics also have suggested Nuremberg type trials for “climate change deniers”:

- “The Weather Channel’s most prominent climatologist is advocating that broadcast meteorologists be stripped of their scientific certification if they express skepticism about predictions of manmade catastrophic global warming. This latest call to silence skeptics follows a year (2006) in which skeptics were compared to “Holocaust Deniers” and Nuremberg-style war crimes trials were advocated by several climate alarmists.” In addition, Cullen’s December 17, 2006 episode of “The Climate Code” TV show, featured a columnist who openly called for Nuremberg-style Trials for climate skeptics. Cullen featured Grist Magazine’s Dave Roberts as an eco-expert opining on energy issues, with no mention of his public call to institute what amounts to the death penalty for scientists who express skepticism about global warming.

- Your side is all about suppression of free thought, and suppression of scientific dissent. The beauty of science is that no issue is ever “settled”, that no question is beyond being more fully understood, that no conclusion is immune to further experimentation. And yet the AGW fanatics say emphatically “case closed” on all issues related to climate change.’

- And now Gore is now equating climate change skepticism to racism.
.. So the comparison of AGW fanatics to a type of fascism is warranted.

- So just WHO is guilty of the “nasty” names business? That would be YOU and your ilk.

another commenter :
- "What do we do about it? You “Chicken Little” science “Lite” types run around and claim the sky is falling and we’re all gonna die!
- And you come up with these massively stupid schemes like carbon trading and taxing cow farts, etc. that will do NOTHING to affect the climate.
- I will NOT submit to your goose stepping, fear mongering, jack booted, fascist, statist, eco-Nazi propaganda. And you have the nerve to use the term “denier”?"

Funny how Pielke mentions Godwin's law ..much earlier
October 09, 2006

On Language
- Let's be blunt. The phrase "climate change denier" is meant to be evocative of the phrase "holocaust denier". As such the phrase conjurs up a symbolic allusion fully intended to equate questioning of climate change with questioning of the Holocaust.

Let's be blunt. This allusion is an affront to those who suffered and died in the Holocaust. Let those who would make such an allusion instead be absolutely explicit about their assertion of moral equivalency between Holocaust deniers and those that they criticize.

This allusion has no place in the discourse on climate change. I say this as someone fully convinced of a significant human role in the behavior of the climate system.

Let's declare a moratorium on the phrases "climate change denier" and "climate change denial." Let's invoke the equivalent of Godwin's Law in discourse on climate policy. Maybe call it the Prometheus Principle.

No more invocation of "climate change deniers."

More stuff

- an essay 3 days earlier 6 Oct 2006

Alarmist Mad Cult Leaders

Alarmist Mad Cult Leaders
pic from Josh on BH

- this is quite a funny animation ..which inspired me to think How do I avoid being called a denier ? If I have doubts ..should I keep them to my self ? - is that how Science works ?

- 2 more points to put to Climate Catastrophe Witnesses
1. How do I avoid being called a denier ?
- If I have doubts ..should I keep them to myself ? – is that how Science works ?

2. If someone makes a claim way HIGH of IPCC scenarios would you call them out on it ?
e.g. Robyn Williams of the ABC saying that sealevel rise could be 100m by 2100
- If you accept IPCC science surely you should call people out whatever SIDE outside IPCC scenarios they take ?
If I say it’s going to be around the long term trend I am called a denier, (I am 4m below IPCC scenario of 5m yet he is outside by a factor 20 times more than I am.)

Warmists are CERTAIN they are RIGHT & CERTAIN Skeptics are WRONG True Skeptics are NOT CERTAIN they are RIGHT #, but CERTAIN Warmists are WRONG *

* If Warmists were really right they would not to be all Drama Queen, and do all the namecalling, foot stamping and pouting anger like a 4 year old.

# 1. skeptics are not all of one view,
2. they don't think they can predict the future, anything could happen

- "What are all these abandoned towers Daddy ?" ...They are all the temples the ancients built to appease the wind gods, cos they thought the gods were going to destroy the Earth to punish man for making too much fire .. they planned huge sun temples in the desert, but most were never built ................ "and all these abandoned houses ?" .. Well property investors were all scared when sensible people realised that they didn't have to put up with the cold and rain of the northern latitudes, so to stop the value of property collapsing they also pushed the theory that the northen latitudes were going to get hot. - But eventually everyone realised it was a story and that's why we all live around the Mediterranean now.

- how to talk to a cult member "climate change" how do you feel when you see when you see you "leaders taking multiple flights and doing many hypocritical things ? Can i opt out of all carbon taxes and just mitagation taxes out of my pension cos it looks a lot cheaper quite a good piece on Cult behaviour http://notrickszone.com/2011/02/12/the-climate-catastrophism-cult/ What are the top 5 errors that warmist have made ..have they ever made any errors ?

- Greens have an alternative reality : nuclear, fracking
study green blogs number of lies, gran conspiracy

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