Outrageous use of BBC Religion spot On BBC Radio 4 Thought For the day a priest used the religion spot to spout eco-fascist dogma unchallenged "- As ever it takes 10 pages to fully context & debug a 1 page of BS transcript is here Summary - Those affected by that event in Rochdale are real people. Bell should not have mentioned it gratuitously to make a political point. He used the piece to point score against his secondary victims men, skeptics & business. His Message : He ends with his group sin idea, but also uses the RHETORICAL TRICKS of giving your false prejudices credibility by wrapping them up in other things that people will accept as true . Those prejudices were #1 that there has been climate change disasters AND they have been caused by man. #2 Anti-man #3 Anti-corporation - So smearing and deceit are not evil ? #1 What do call a man who knows there haven't been any disasterous effects PROVEN to be caused by any RECENT form of climate change, but make accusations that there have been AND they are caused by man ? ... (perhaps he means environmental damage) If students go through it line by line they will find other factual errors & false dichotomy, smear words, leading words, exaggerration, but once again we are falling for that trick where people attack with SMEARS to divert us into defending ourselves before we point out the flaws in their arguments. (that's BULLYING) - I forgot to say that Bell's tactic of attacking skeptics with smears is BULLYING, something the BBC internally has strong policies against. BBC balance doesn't apply cos religion gets it's own progs in return for the unelected archaic religious keeping their oar out of other progs. .....Pity they haven't done this with the CAGW religion. 2 Detail - Those affected by that event in Rochdale are real people. We are sorry, If he was going to mention that event he should have done it properly with respect, not just mention it gratuitously to make a political point. Peace, love & solutions would be expected in the Religion Slot, but Bell's used it to point score against his secondary victims men, skeptics & business. His Message : He ends with his group sin idea, but also uses the RHETORICAL TRICKS of giving your false prejudices credibility by wrapping them up in other things that people will accept as true . Those prejudices were #1 that there has been climate change disasters AND they have been caused by man. #2 Anti-man #3 Anti-corporation - So smearing and deceit are not evil ? - I see his idea is to introduce the idea of group sin over personal sin, which he claimed was discovered by Rheinhold Niebuhr. I don't see what's new about it too much different form "mob menatlity", although he's talking about organised groups. What's new ? as he says Jesus killed by such group mentality ? Though Bell's piece was more politics than religion. #3 If a certain group built a corporate body that facilitates evil by promoting dogma & authority over evidence, logic & democracy ; empowers themselves & holds back equality for all including women for 2000 years ... that would be organised religion itself. #2 the evil groups in the Bible often included women - I would say the piece is hatespeak, try replacing "men" with "yer gays", "yer muslims", or "yer immigrants" What do we call it, if we prejudge a person by categorizing them not by their choices but by accident of birth ? BIGOTRY #1 What do call a man who knows there haven't been any disasterous effects caused by any RECENT form of climate change , but make accusations that there have been AND they are caused by man ? ... (perhaps he means environmental damage) If students go through it line by line they will find other factual errors & false dichotomy, smear words, leading words, exaggerration, hypocrisy but once again we are falling for that trick where BULLIES attack with SMEARS to divert us into defending ourselves before we point out the flaws in their arguments. - As ever you can find support for any argument in scripture quote : 1 Timothy 2:12 do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, she is to remain quiet Context : In most situations the BBC does attempt balance, but in the context of thes 3 min progs it says the balance rule doesn't apply - Yes truth does matter, but the BBC has this secret deal : religion is compartmentalised into it's own set progs like the 3 minutes on Radio4 in morning in return for the archaic undemocratic religious keeping their oar out of other progs. .....Pity they haven't done this with the CAGW religion.

DETAIL analysis - Normally decrypting what a priests sermon is about is a hard task it's like to write them they dip into bingo bag of prejudices & platitudes, but this one sounds like it's written with more cunning by looking at the end - It's harmful he perpetuates the strangerdanger myth that denies says the group does not harm the people within it. - those Rochdale did worse thing as group as they'd do as individuals ..false assumption some might be right evil who rape their own daughters list of evil men to together can't list women ... also forcing arranged marriage is tanatmount to rape. - he uses the word corporate - when organisation is better - if more evil equals more crime then The church is a corporate body that has facilitated evil & kept sexual equality 2000 years dogma & authority over evidence,logic & democracy - They build in their own image & oppress nonconformists & hold back equality for all including women for 2000 years - Bell's past form : He criticised Ford but actually may not have talked to workers at factory "When Barack Obama praised the writings of philosopher theologian Reinhold Niebuhr in the run up to the 2008 US Presidential Elections, he joined a long line of top politicians who closely engaged with Niebuhr's ideas, including Tony Benn, Jimmy Carter, Martin Luther King Jr. and Dennis Healey. " - So smearing and deceit are not evil ? "Paedophile activity" in the audio is written "Paedophile gangs" in the transcript UNTOLD is a bit strong - starts up with something plausible them builds up to stick his untrue smear in - Actually it doesn't seem to warrant much analysis.. it's just some mad old priest building another sermon by dipping into his bingo bag of prejudices & platitudes. On another day he would have pulled out different balls & misled about something else smeared some other group I hope for the good of his health his OK with people laughing at him. - Yes truth does matter, but the BBC has this secret deal the archaic undemocratic religious get their 2 minutes on Radio4 in morning in return for letting all the other BBC remain secular. kids check through the doc can you find false dichotomy ? smear words, leading words, exagerration - "No one has been sexually abused by a female gangs", he doesn't really understand what sexual abuse about. He thinks it's about sex so therefore only men do it, but since it is usually about power .. it is certainly possible girl gang members will procure women .. If a madam procures vulnerable girls to work in her brothel I would call this sexual abuse BBC Story "more than 25% of sexual abuse might be by women ONLY" - women have participated in cults 1. basic premise of : false dichotomy, tactic of stating multiple falsehoods as if they are facts, rheotical tricks like giving your false prejudices credibility by wrapping them up in other things that people will accept as true . part 1 men are bad, women are not - mob bahaviour exists TRUE any evil groups of women in bible ? mobmember evil is always worse than individual surely bible tells of women who provoke evil - Jezebel in our Society - “Eve” and “evil,” blaming her for the evil brought into the world due to the sin of eating from the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil - when Jezebel killed the prophets of the LORD - another mention of evil women "he same with the evil woman, the lewd and adulterous one" - Delilah who uses her feminine qualities to deceive and destroy a man and was responsible for Samson's downfall. - Sapphira thieved with husband as ever you can lift quotes from the bible to say whatever you like Proverbs 27:15 ESV / 7 helpful votes - "A continual dripping on a rainy day and a quarrelsome wife are alike;" Firstly who are the victims in that speech ? - not me or you, but rather the victims of the Rochdale gang Those people in Rochdale are real people & if he was going to mention them he should have shown some more respect..not just using them for political point scoring

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