- I decided to check what Bob Carter is doing. I found excellent opinion pieces on Bob Carter's webpage . There are links to audio and video
- God he's a very good speaker : sticking to logic and always able to answer the other persons point ..usually while they deteriate into low tactics like name calling, personal attacks etc.
- one good 2009 article : "The three simple questions that were posed to the Australian Environment Minister’s advisors were:
- 1. Is it the case that CO2 increased by 5 per cent since 1998 whilst global temperature cooled over the same period? If so, why did the temperature not increase; and how can human emissions be to blame for dangerous levels of warming?
- 2. Is it the case that the rate and magnitude of warming between 1979 and 1998 (the late 20th century phase of global warming) were not unusual as compared with warmings that have occurred earlier in the Earth's history? If the warming was not unusual, why is it perceived to have been caused by human CO2 emissions; and, in any event, why is warming a problem if the Earth has experienced similar warmings in the past?
- 3. Is it the case that all GCM computer models projected a steady increase in temperature for the period 1990-2008 ?, whereas in fact there were only eight years of warming were followed by ten years of stasis and cooling?
- As independent scientists, we found that the Minister’s advisors were unable, indeed in some part unwilling, to answer these questions."
- "We were told with respect to the first question that it needed rephrasing, because it did not take account of the global thermal balance and the fact that much of the heat that drives the climate system is lodged in the ocean. Que? What is it about “carbon dioxide has increased and temperature has decreased” that the Minister’s science advisors don’t understand?" .. I disagree the govenments advisors argument has some logic, but this is not an idea that they put forward before, they never said "some of the 1979-98 warming was caused by oceans giving up some of their heat" POST HOC
-'The second question “was the late 20th century phase of warming unusual in rate or magnitude” was effectively dismissed with the comment that climatic events that occurred in the distant geological past are not relevant to policy that is concerned with contemporary climate change. Try telling that to Professor Plimer.' ... maybe not the most important, but still relevant I would say
- And regarding the third question, and the matter of the accuracy of the IPCC’s computer models, we were assured that the models are improving all the time .... if they assured we had to act on the basis of their old models and they proved to be wrong, why should we believe them today"
- By Bob Carter, David Evans, Stewart Franks and Bill Kininmonth. 22 June 2009