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Gave up Blogging about Global Warming : it's like arguing with astrologists

- One last post now Nov 2011
- there would be a claim in the media .. 2 hours of fact checking would prove in bunk
.. again & again .. it became an interesting, but time consuming soap opera. Life's too short... and I realised that is more irrationality in life so I have moved to look at more fundamentals.

- Do you think a modern da Vinci would have spent his life correcting other peoples blogs ?
- I stopped posting 1 years ago. But now just a few points to finish with

1. Step back & look at big picture

- "Greenies" are screaming hate at skeptics like me yet they drive a big SUV full of kids. Their 100 year carbon footprint is 30 times bigger than mine.

- Me with my simple life, no house, no cars , no kids, no pets, secondhand clothes, no gardening, no decorations, no birthdays, no Christmas. In my world there would be real mathematics not romantism; meaming no pseudo green things paid by government : no windfarms, no solar, no GM ban, no organic food promotion, but rather electricity made with nuclear, gas and coal with pollution control.

2. The Green bubble world

- Catastrophic Global Warmer "believers" - are the same as Anti-Vaccine , 911 Conspiracy theorists etc. - always dissing non- believers

- Like religious fundamentalists they exhibit the same "true believer" psychological pattern of behaviour

- People live in bubble & don't understand the real world

- I can't generalise, but for many it's a feel good feeling of belonging

- This bubble world has a classic Grand narrative with a dogma like communism or religion.. "anything in our world "green" is nice and warm & cuddly, and everything outside is evil"
- hence there is a "us" and a "them"
- We are nice and they are 'deniers'"..So it's comforting to shout "DENIER" or can be be dismissed as big corporation
- This behaviour is bullying : Greenism is a cuddly form of fascism
- "Science is settled"=debate DENIERS"

- "Things in this Grand narrative - sustainability, anti-Americanism and other neo-liberal deconstructions of capitalism and consumerism." Phlip Stott .. (notice the buzz words just like communism has)

- The grand narrative bubble can form a convenient straw man view of the outsiders .."they DENY climate change"
.. no everyone admits climate changes .. They are pushing the certainty that CATASTROPHIC climate change is certain -

- like believers in astrology Confirmation Bias is part of this Green bubble world..


- It's staggering that scientific skeptics organisations know what confirmation bias is, yet when it comes to Global Warming many of the same skeptics organisations use it big time: e.g. Skepticality, SGU, Doubtful News, even Simion Singh ..see my essay on "True Believer behaviour by SGU"

- "see that confirms catastrophe is coming"
"ah that other report, well that must be paid for big corporations, so we can ignore it"

- everything which can possibily seen as confirming can be trumpeted
.."of course", shouted
.. every argument is shouting, name calling .. strong on emotion and low on reason
.. see how their reason is often ... taking 2+2=6
..whereas evidence and reason is real world

Green Magic Maths
- In Greenism maths can be twisted to fit the bubble view -It's irrational mathematics with solutions that are all magic solutions defying real world maths ...e.g. wind farms etc.

- Saying that 80% of climate scientists believe in global warming is an awful lot like saying that 80% of priests believe in God.

3. There are many fantasies but there is only one Real World

- When I am watching Derren Brown I am aware most of the people are saying "Wow this is like psychic " and I am saying this is such a stupidly simple trick.
- I see it's the same thing when I go into a church and realise for everyone else it's completely real they cannot see outside the bubble.

- Non Passion is a sign of the real world : There is no need for passion argument in science - let the facts speak for themselves, but when we don't know we don't know
- The big picture is stepping back and looking at actions rather than dogma ..I want to see a world where peoples lives are much simpler and there is much less consumerism of physical products

- The irony is that "their green movement is not green" This guy agrees with me

- Saying that Climategate is attacking science is like questioning MPs Expenses is bad & anti democratic

4. What's the Harm in Hyping Global Warming ?

- What is bad is :
1. While Greenies are still driving SUVs full of kids and pets i.e. not downsizing, I'm paying for green machine, ineffective solutions , taxes
2. - cos the top is irrational the whole bottom is irrational - white elephant projects, which don't make sense.
- It harms civilisation, because we could be focusing on things which really matter : rolling out solutions to diseases etc.
3. Imagine if it didn't exist world would actually be more greener - cos green maths is so bad that their measures create more destruction.

There is a Big Elephant in the Room
- The elephant in the room is that within the next 40 years fusion power may be on tap and then carbon fuel use will be severely reduced.
(* note fusion could be a disaster for the enviroment cos although CO2 would be zero, people would think we could proceed head on with consumerism, but we do need to kind to environment for other things not GW ... without considering the cutting down of all the trees etc. )

4. Untruth feeds corruption thus diverting resources from efficient use.
We get Aid corruption like I have seen in Africa..The worse the situation is the more aid money can be got .. so African Aids figures were sometimes increased after counting to bring in a but more aid money. ... this is the base behind the ridiculous 2035 glaciergate claim .. Indian subdivision of IPCC called TERI was given $500,000 grant after that claim was made ..
- With that extra finance they failed to find the 2035 date was wrong, it was someone else who pointed it out

- The Chinese secret service love how we are wasting are time and resources instead of competing

- What counts is actions not beliefs.

- the Greens have the same GUILT FEELING about technology that the Victorians are supposed to have about sex.

Before when we got sick it was cos "we are evil", then we found bacteria and medicine ... now we use the Earth resources and are sure to cause catastrophe cos "we are evil"

What would we be doing instead ?

New Ideas

- banks have been prosecuted for mis-selling , what about the Mis-selling of Global warming

- Would you buy insurance without knowing the real risks ?

- In any debate what you do is define your terms first ?

- Hang on are we even sure that even a 5C would be a catastrophe ?... any heat deaths are compensated by reduced cold deaths.
- ah melting ice ...... it's not as if would all melt ..remember only melting ice on land causes sea level to rise ..floating ice doesn't ..yep sure ice which spends most time at say -1C now might melt, but Ice which sits at -0C would just be sitting at -15C after a 5C temp rise

- If sea evels were rising we'd be hearing about it, but twitterverse seems to be full of reports saying sea levels are falling thing is SEALEVELGATE

- Why trust IPCC when you don't trust the EU ?

- What do you call those people that are crazy about that ancient end of the world prophesy ?
..oh yes Global Warmers

- "The BBC's main enviroment correspondent has been paid by big oil company to run seminars for them, in turn oil co is advising BBC on headlines"

- @JoanneNova - BBC's main enviroment correspondent has been paid by Green Lobby CRU to run seminars for them, in turn CRU is advising BBC on headlines
- Roger Harrabin's "cash for Comment" ..he's got form Hyped an article after an Eco-girl asked him to is that his motivation ? to get Green chicks

- The main component of the “Hamada” part of Sahara is mostly limestone. Limestone (CaCO3) plus heat gives natural cement (CaO + CO2)! - better link Good Work, but I say, science never stands on only 1 study
- I want to believe these Japanese stats, but I am suspicious of all stats where there is a cultural bias to tell people what they want to hear.
- So corroboration would be good... and why hasn't this result been produced before ? supressed ? A Dutch analysis once showed lots of earth cooling smog due to carbon particulates from all the wood fueled cookers (& slash & burn) in the developing world.

- Greenies are COMPLEXITY DENIERS, my article, it's about how people latch onto simple ideas cos it's easier to handle than complex reality

Sherlock Holmes: “It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data. Insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories instead of theories to suit facts”. From: “Scandal in Bohemia” A. Conan Doyle.

DENIERS ..yes they are

"In the Climategate and Climategate 2.0 emails they're shown time and again fudging data, breaching FOI requests, lying to outsiders who've requested to see the raw data on which they've based their dubious prognostications, grossly exaggerating their degree of certainty about the threat of AGW, tweaking their Assessment Reports to make them look more scary, pretending those Assessment Reports are the work of diverse hands when really the people doing all the legwork and rewriting comprise a relatively small core of committed activists."
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Global Warming is a distraction it's the damage done to the enviroment by consumerism that's the real problem

Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Change (CACC). They have talked of nothing but CACC all these years. But CACC will not go away. Multi billion pound industries are based on CACC. Mere reason will not drive CACC away. However one day this mighty edifice of CACC will collapse.
Debunking Climate Change catastrophe Scares is like debunking astrology. It goes on and on. There are more important things to talk about the general Irrationality in society so I moved onto the Detecting BS Blog
- However some ridiculous things do need answering back so ... see
- 4 Pychological pattern of "True Believers"
- 5 The Racism of Greenies and the left
- 7 Climate Claptrap III
- 11 Climate Claptrap IV
- 12 Climate Claptrap V

See the 70 2004-2010 Catastrophic Climate Change Stories
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What will YOU give up to save 200 million deaths in the next 20 years ?

...cigarettes ?


- COUNTERPOINT on ABC (the lefty ABC completely changed it and banned conservatives, so its rubbish now)

Keep it Simple = sustainable

These days Rightwing bloggers are picking apart significant Climate BS :
- JoNova in Oz
- notalotofpeopleknowthat
- U Climate aggregates headlines
- U Climate just popular stories
- Tallbloke Good, technical
- The excellent Bob Carter
- Andrew Bolt
- James Delingpole
- Donna Laframboise
- skepteco Sane Blog from Irish ex-greenie
- skepticscorner not bad summary of sites
- Rod Liddle
- Johnny Ball's Blog has some sensible comments on CACC panic

- focuses on Climate Change Skeptism home of the $125K challenge

Climateaudit from Steve McIntrye

- Excellent Explanation of GW

Excellent Rationalist Links
good links to blogs

greenworldtrust - bit nutty, trolls etc ..pity

List of lists of scientist non-believers


Friends of Science
Canadian Scientists against Kyoto

GORE always refuses
to debate a SKEPTIC .. WHY ?
Challengers : Dennis Avery, Bjorn Lomborg, Michael Crichton, Prof. S. Fred Singer (former director of the U.S. National Weather Service), Tim Ball, Ph.D. (historical climatologist), Prof. Ian Clark (University of Ottawa), and Prof. Richard Lindzen (MIT) among others. Of course, the media never report these challenges. After all, why should they? The debate’s over Another Challenge
Gore knows he would look stupid in a public debate

Clamour Of The Times
From Prof. Philip Stott

Warwick Hughes
& Douglas Hoyt
Take the IPCC Apart

- New scientist's Report

NZ Climate
Skeptics & Gray

A Ranting Rightwing Blog

The Heartland Institute
A Right Wing news source
strange you used to have to go to the left for alternative news, it's not me that's changed

Older Stories 2h
- Climategate Investigations expected to be a whitewashes turn out to be whitewashes 30/7/10
- Calling People Denier is a low down dirty trick /2/10
- Sacrifice a virgin : debate not changed for 6000 years /2/10
- SGU Shows the Madness of Crowds 12/2/10
- Fingers in ears now the debate is polarised 10/2/10
- The Independent it isn't is it ? 2/2/10
- People don't believe CC pushers
- 1. they overplayed their hand
- 2. no accurate climate preditions
- Nepali engineer builds artificial glaciers to conserve water 18/1/10
- Moving The Climate Goalposts 18/1/10
- Financial Modelling Failed Could Climate Modelling Fail Likewise ? 16/1/10
- Good Science is Science that makes reliable predictions 2/1/10
- Old book told me to take scientists warnings seriously : "The World is Cooling - Helped By man " 4/1/10
- Even Recent History explains climate is not constant 29/12/09

Older Stories 2g
- Small Countries : Corrupt Elite Demanding "Guilt Money" from Developed Countries 20/12/09
- Recap : Facts are Science, but Speculation is not
- The Un-credible Science of Greenpeace UK
- Trust Destroyed by Climategate and Strings of False Catastrophe stories
- Greenies are not Green
Cimategate is REALLY important when you understand - Why the public believe and how the CRU was Sexing Up Global Warning Data and damaging the CREDIBILITY of Science
- Why is the main stream media still Running the Scare Stories but not running with the Big Story ?
- Perhaps their own Inboxes harbour nasty secrets ?
- Why Climategate is the Biggest Climate Story Ever 4/12/09
- Top Climate Scientists - lied and cheated : no surprise 1/12/09
- Wind doesn't work ! : do the maths 21/11/09
- Stop the ice melting ... it causes a decrease in CO2 11/11/09
- Yes Trust in science that works 30/10/09
- Where was the downward sloping graph in 1998 Predictions ? 11/10/09
- Some Odd Notes July 2009 lot of mercury about naturally
- Climate is a Chaotic not a linear system June 2009, so easy predictions aren't possible
- Salty sea and a river as a battery ..reported on radio NL 27/4/09 too good to be true surely
- Proper Maths on the Subject 27/4/09 a great new book
- Amercians are not the biggest polluters ? 28/1/09
- biggest cause of S Asian warming is cooking - BBC 28/1/09 Something that in many areas of the world causes a larger warming effect that CO2 is not in Climate models.
- Recession is Good Surely - 13/12/08

Older Stories 2f
- The huge huge Asian Dustcloud - 13/12/08
- Melting Antarctic Iceberg give massive seeding to CO2 absorbing bacteria - 13/12/08
- Which Magazine - Home turbine uses more electricity than it generates
- Sea Levels are Rising and falling - Oct 2008
- 18 years of No summers will happen - September 2008
- The car halted a horse shit environmental catastrophe
- Krakatoa effect 0.5C fall in temperature
- 50% Error in Standard Model
- Dr Karl's solar array, Crichton's bad record in science

Older Stories 2e
- Top UK renewable is rubbish - 8th April
- Climate Conference unreported of course, BBC suddenly cold year - 4th April
- Secret CO2 Reduction
- Brainstorming - Effects of CO2 Reduction
- Lovelock called fear of GM and Nuclear as superstition
- Widespread Major manmade Ecological and possible climate change before the industrial revolution
- Windpower is Great Isn't it ? 31/1/08
- Gr33n M3gic Solutions- 31/1/08
- Climate whispers - dynamics of why stories grow 14/1/08
- Solar Swindle Meeting 14/1/08
- drastic climate change peaked this year 12/1/08
- Some Stuff 12/1/08
- Climate Comedy 12/1/08
- Lake of Rubbish 12/1/08
- .. like communism

Older Stories 2d
- Radio Neth 2 stories 8/1/08
- Katrina released Massive CO2 4/1/08
- The Mega Windfarm is Tiny 31/12/07
- Maths of Risk Percentage 30/12/07
- IPCC Circus Cartoons, Page 2 28/12/07
- ABC - finds the next Hockey Stick - Coral Acidification
- ABC Solar party spin - wasting time analysing it

Older Stories 2c - Give Up Christmas For Climate
- Climate Catastrophe Evangelism, are there Dangers ?
- Climate Skeptic Site is Very Good, Ice at highest levels ever at South Pole
- Sincere Hippy Thinking Flawed
- Stott's Brilliant Introduction and Nigel Lawson's - "Gripped by madness" Speech
- Temp and CO2 Figures are questionable
- Richard Black's Essay on Skepticism
- Gray Demolishes IPCC 22/11/07
- Some Skeptics Essays David Bellamy denies temp rising , Peaser the Optimist
Silence about lies & hype dents Catastrophe Theory
- Vague catastrophe predictions
- Global Temperature is a stupid idea
- IPCC Sea-level cock-up
- IPCC Abandons Flood study cos it's good news
- IPCC scientist says it's a swindle

Older Stories 2b

- BBC NW Passage story BIG Error
- BBC 10s lip service to Skeptics now back to the scare stories
- IPCC Ignorant says member
- my own position
- Hypothesis : China Conspiracy
- Closing Down the Debate Issue
- Believer or skeptical government what's the difference ?
- NPR Debate Skeptic Converts Skeptics needs writing up
- Prof Stott is Back with a new Blog
- Gore attacked by school vandals
- Gore Admits he lied
- Scientists Fail to Criticise Liar Gore
- Gore Loses temper - BBC Lose tape !
- Bark Loudly do nothing
- BBC A Scare Story Every Day
- What You can do

Older stories page 2a

- saving energy uses energy
- Never Ending Oil Supply
- Solar Experts maths is not very good Jeremy Leggett ABC Radio
- 1934 US warmest year,
- James Lovelock

- Ian Plimer geologist against Catastrophe
- 15 GW debunks

- Climate Bet Challenge
- Counterpoint prog had "forecasting analyst"
- Human CO2 production miniscule
- My Error Volcanoes in normal years 1% of man
- It's the numbers stupid !
- Upto 100% of global warming scaremongers are wrong
- Sydney "Earth Hour" a marketing scam
- Some Notes
- standby doesn't use much power
- Catastrophe Porn
- cosmic rays research
- business and gov can see $$$ in CC
- the carbon trading scam

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Stott Lawson lecture page -Good info

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